Category: Two Julians

  • Norwich – Fat Cat (Two Julians)

    Norwich – Fat Cat (Two Julians)

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    Julian and I decided to postpone a more rural visit to the further reaches of Norfolk in favour of a Norwich based tour, as I needed to be back for bar billiards. Julian S refers to this as something like bare knuckle stick action, but he doesn’t understand sport in the way that I do, although at times I wonder if he might just be right. When talking to people outside Norwich, the Fat Cat is one of the pubs that most people identify with the city as it has a long tradition of being a destination real ale pub since it opened in 1991. It has won many CAMRA awards, not least the National Pub of the Year twice, and is also listed in the Good Beer Guide. The pub, located on West End Street, had first opened in the late 1860s and was known as the New Inn until 1991, when it took its current Fat Cat name under the ownership of Colin Keatley. He had previously run the White Lion on Oak Street, which is today one of the best pubs in the country despite the landlord’s ability to lead me astray, but we won’t go too far down that line on this blog post.

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    Some of the extensive range of real ales, of which they had around twenty which shows just how much they’re selling here. There were also ciders and craft beer options, but the real ale selection was well balanced and all major beer types were covered. Breweries included Titanic, Thornbridge, Green Jack, Oakham to name just a few, along with the beers brewed in-house by the Fat Cat Brewing Company. Julian and I are very punctilious in every possible way, so we knew we had just time for one beer here despite the number of tempting and almost seductive options.

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    The beers are keenly priced, with one lower priced option which is a marvellous idea for a pub. It’s not cheap visiting pubs today given the cost of living increases, so affordable options are much appreciated and venues might find that they’re a necessity if matters continue as they are.

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    And more of the beer selection.

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    I went for the Marmalade Cat from the Fat Cat Brewing Company, which was well kept, fresh and suitably full bodied. Julian S also commented positively about his Citra from Oakham Ales.

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    There’s plenty of character to the pub and there’s no shortage of beer memorabilia about the place. That door leads to another seating area which is often used for meetings and the like.

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    Decorations attached to the ceiling. I would never dare do this in a pub that I had, I’d be nervous one would fall on someone’s head. I admire their confidence, or at least, I am realistic about my own DIY abilities. But, I digress.

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    There’s one long central bar and the venue has been extended on numerous occasions over the years. Although we visited on a quiet afternoon, I understand that it’s often very busy and it’s not always easy to find a seat. There was a mixture of regulars and also I got the impression a couple of visitors new to the pub who had heard about its reputation.

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    Some old pub signs and unfortunately the King’s Head at Worstead and the Shropham Three Horseshoes are no longer with us other than as memories.

    I haven’t been to this pub for nearly ten years and by chance, I was to visit it again the following evening for a CAMRA planning meeting for the Norwich Beer Festival. I was pleased to return, the choice of real ales was as good as anywhere in Norfolk and the service was immediate and friendly. I’m also pleased that I don’t need to write anything negative about this visit, as it would have been just a little sacrilegious to be critical of this fine establishment. Although, for the record, Julian and I are not easily kowtowed, so I would have mentioned any issues that arose, but I’m pleased to say there was nothing negative.

  • King’s Lynn – Two Julians (Part One)

    King’s Lynn – Two Julians (Part One)

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    We were going long haul on our latest visit as part of the Two Julians (visit our back catalogue of trips at http://www.norfolksuffolk.org.uk/) and our plan to eventually visit every pub in Norfolk and Suffolk. The Excel bus to King’s Lynn cost me just £2 and it was even better for Julian who travels for free. The pubs we visited were:

    The Lattice House

    Maids Head

    The Eagle

    Bank House

    Wenns

    There will be another visit to King’s Lynn in due course in our rigorous research efforts. It was positive to see the Lattice House reopened as the pub is in such an important and interesting historic building it seemed a great shame for it to be closed. The Maids Head and the Eagle were both Craft Union pubs with cheap prices, whereas the Bank House was a grand decadent building which was for a long time a bank. The Good Beer Guide listed Wenns was probably my favourite venue of the day.

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    As we were in the area, I tried once again to visit St Nicholas’ Chapel but they have limited opening hours and I’ve never been able to go in. One day…..

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    King’s Lynn is often under-rated, but it has some of the best medieval buildings in the region and I keep finding new things on my visits to the town. This is the gateway to the monastery run by the Austin Friars, where Kings and Princes would have stayed when coming to what was then Bishop’s Lynn.

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    King’s Staith Lane, one of the atmospheric roads leading down to the river.

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    And the bus back home after another tiring research trip. We straddle the Waveney so you don’t have to….

  • King’s Lynn – Wenns Chop & Ale House (Two Julians)

    King’s Lynn – Wenns Chop & Ale House (Two Julians)

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    The fifth and final pub on our study tour to King’s Lynn was Wenns, which I’ve visited a few times before and I’ve always been suitably impressed. For anyone who has more time on their hands than they know what to do with, here’s my first visit and here’s when I went with my friend Łukasz for food. The venue’s name does make it sound food based, but plenty of customers just visit for a drink and they are listed in the Good Beer Guide.

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    The beer selection and we both went for the Juice Rocket from Three Blind Mice, but there was also Directors from Courage and Fever Pitch from Marston’s. The service was prompt and efficient, with the venue being relatively quiet. Prices are a little higher than in the other pubs, but they weren’t unreasonable.

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    Hazy and with plenty of juicy flavour to it, I’ve never had a bad beer from Three Blind Mice. I will be making another visit to Three Blind’s pub in Ely, the Drayman’s Son, at some point.

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    There’s a cafe bar feel to the venue, which also offers accommodation. I find the surroundings comfortable here and there are numerous different seating areas available. As I discovered last time when playing Jenga, there are also plenty of games to amuse customers as well. We decided against rushing for the bus back to Norwich and instead lingered here as it all felt suitably pleasant. This remains one of my favourite locations in King’s Lynn and I like the mixture of cask and keg.

  • King’s Lynn – Bank House (Two Julians)

    King’s Lynn – Bank House (Two Julians)

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    The fourth pub of the day for Julian and I on our study tour to King’s Lynn was rather decadent, the upmarket Bank House. This is one of the newer pubs in the town as it only opened in 1983 and remained open for a decade before partly being turned into offices.

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    There are numerous different dates online about when the building was reopened as a restaurant, bar and hotel, but it’s all rather glamorous. It was first constructed in the seventeenth century as a merchant’s house and was then turned into a bank which was used by the Gurneys, later part of Barclays Bank.

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    The venue has its own plaque and there’s an extensive history of the building on their web-site which includes:

    “A stunning Grade II * listed Georgian townhouse, described by Sir Nikolaus Pevsner as one of the finest houses in King’s Lynn, Bank House was built in the early 18th Century for one of King’s Lynn’s richest merchants. Underneath the house extensive barrel roofed vaults extend down to the river where wine imported from the continent would have been stored before being shipped on to Cambridge, Ely or the North.

    In the 1780s Joseph Gurney set up his first bank in Bank House. A dent is visible in the wooden floor of the Counting House, now the front room of the Brasserie, where nervous customers once shuffled their feet as they waited at the cashiers’ desk to make their withdrawals.”

    And any building that Pevsner likes, I’m fairly certain that I’m going to like as well.

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    The area where “nervous customers once shuffled their feet” is where that hatch is located.

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    This is the front room of the Brasserie and the room to the right is the former bank manager’s office.

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    And here is that room, the former bank manager’s office, which is now the bar area. It’s all tastefully decorated although some of the seating feels more decorative than functional.

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    There were two real ales available, 61 Deep and Pedigree which are both from Marstons. I went for the 61 Deep, which is a reference to how deep the well is at Marston’s brewery in Burton, and it was well-kept and at the appropriate temperature (the beer, not the well in Burton). Julian went for a soft drink, so I assumed that he was very unwell and I don’t think he’ll make that mistake again in a hurry. I didn’t like to say anything.

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    I thought that this was a rather smartly laid out venue and there were numerous dining rooms and seating areas. The team members were friendly and welcoming, so it felt inviting despite the grand surroundings. I’m not sure that many people go in just for a drink as this is primarily a dining venue, but they’re welcome to do so and there are a few tables to sit at. We were visiting in the afternoon and they were still serving, although they didn’t have many customers at that point.

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    The food menus and I thought that the prices seemed quite agreeable given the decadence of the surroundings.

    This venue couldn’t have been much different from the previous two pubs we had been to, both Craft Union, but I enjoyed the environment and it all felt informal. There’s always something exciting about being in a building with so much heritage and I wouldn’t rule out returning here for a meal. All rather lovely.

  • King’s Lynn – The Eagle (Two Julians)

    King’s Lynn – The Eagle (Two Julians)

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    The next pub on our study tour to King’s Lynn was the Eagle, another Craft Union pub. It has been a pub since the 1850s, although has gone through numerous name changes, merging with the neighbouring White Swan in 1887 to form the Eagle & Swan.

    A bomb hit the pub on 12 June 1942, killing 16 people and the newly rebuilt pub didn’t reopen until 1959. There was a £125,000 investment into the pub in 2017 when the Eagle name was brought back, having formerly been Bar Red.

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    The choice of real ales was between Ghost Ship from Adnams and Doom Bar, so we inevitably went for the former. Priced at just £2.50 a pint, it was well kept and tasted as expected. The serving in a Carling glass isn’t ideal, I don’t want to get a reputation if anyone thinks I had ordered it. The service was polite and efficient, with the pub taking card payments.

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    The pub is long with a pool table at the rear as well as a sizeable beer garden which was busy when we visited. It’s very much a sports pub and there are screens located around the venue. It was all clean, tidy and well presented although there are some parts of the pub that are in need of repair and the toilets have seen better days. Indeed, the matter of smashed toilets, missing toilet seats and general vandalism appear to have beset the pub for many years judging by the reviews.

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    The front bar of the pub, with the flags I think relating to the ongoing FIFA Women’s World Cup. There was a change of team members during our visit and so enthusiastically were they singing their version of karaoke they missed customers and weren’t acknowledging those entering and leaving the pub. The pub doesn’t serve food and its main selling point appears to be sport and cheap drinks.

    The Eagle does have a sense of being a community pub and the atmosphere was informal and laid-back, although it’s been picking up a few negative reviews recently. It’s a competitive area given the nearby Maids Head, also Craft Union, and the Globe, the sizeable JD Wetherspoon pub, but it was one of the busiest pubs that we visited. Certainly a lively venue, I definitely can’t complain about the value for money.

  • King’s Lynn – Maids Head (Two Julians)

    King’s Lynn – Maids Head (Two Julians)

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    The second pub that Julian and I visited on our study tour was the Craft Union operated Maids Head which is located on the Tuesday Market Place in the town. It first opened in the 1730s and became a Bullards pub which is evident from the rather attractive tablets on the frontage. I’m not sure why there’s a door on the right hand side, that was once a window and it’s evident from the brickwork that this part of the building has been reworked. More recently it became a Watney Mann pub and is now part of Stonegate’s Craft Union chain.

    Here’s what the Tuesday Market Place used to look like, with the Maids Head being the yellow building that’s third from the right (clicking on the image makes it larger). Once a grand square, it’s unfortunately now used as a car park which gives it a similar ambience to the outside of a Tesco Extra store.

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    There was a choice of Doom Bar or Timothy Taylor’s Landlord, so we both went for the latter and it was keenly priced at £3 per pint. The beer was well-kept and tasted as expected, so all was well.

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    The interior of the pub was modern and kitted out like many other Craft Union pubs. It’s all a little generic for me, Stonegate tend to make the pub fit its standard interior decor plans rather than looking at the venue and basing the design around that. It’s an area that smaller pub companies and national chains such as JD Wetherspoon are far better on, their localisation is frequently impressive. However, it was clean and comfortable, so there were no problems there. Given that Craft Union claim they spent £200,000 on this last year, I’m surprised they didn’t do something more creative, although in fairness, the internal divisions which would have added character were removed long ago.

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    The bar area and sports are shown throughout the pub. The pub is generally well reviewed, with frequent mention of their low pricing, although there is an unanswered and odd review noting:

    “So my husband and son went to kings Lynn music festival and went to have a drink in the maids head, my son went to use the toilet and was ordered by the bounser to get to the back of the non existent queue he went back to the bouncer and said he wanted to use the toilet and was violently pushed into the railings and landed on the floor, the bouncer and another one jumped on top of my son grabbing him by the throat and was literally strangling him only letting go when his dad intervened. When is it nessesary to use these tactics when a customer asked to use the toilet. I certainly won’t be recommending this pub to anyone and most definitely won’t drink in there again. Their bouncers are appalling”

    I can imagine there’s more to this, but it’s certainly sub-optimal for a venue to have this sort of review. The pub was in the news recently when one of their door staff was attacked, with the defendant’s solicitor stating:

    “This is the first time she had been out, she thought for enjoyment, in a number of years. She went out and drank far too much. She was intoxicated, and that is why she has very little memory of the incident itself.”

    From this and some reviews, it certainly feels like there might be more of an edge to the venue in the evenings and so perhaps Julian and I missed out on some more raucous action.

    Anyway, all was clean and organised, with the team member who served us being polite and helpful, as well as offering a friendly farewell. There’s an effort with the presentation with hanging baskets outside and the atmosphere was inviting and comfortable. The pricing is low and competitive with the large JD Wetherspoon Globe Hotel located on the opposite side of the market square. The venue doesn’t serve food and so their USP appears to be competitively priced drinks in a community pub style atmosphere. I enjoyed the visit and the surroundings were well maintained with the beer being well-kept, so the manager seems to be doing a decent job.

  • King’s Lynn – Lattice House (Two Julians)

    King’s Lynn – Lattice House (Two Julians)

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    Another day and Julian and I were off on another of our study tours. This pub has its name back again, the former Lattice House was changed to Bishops of Chapel Street but it has gone back to what it was previously called and it has recently reopened after being closed for a few months. For many years it was operated by JD Wetherspoon and the historic nature of the building is what made this one of my favourite pubs in their chain, but it was flogged off in early 2016 as they likely thought their nearby Globe Hotel pub was sufficient for their needs. I’ve written about this venue before, as it went through a period as a restaurant when people in their early 20s were entirely banned and unsurprisingly that little initiative didn’t work and it closed after just a few months. Even younger people can enjoy decent food.

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    As the sign notes, the pub was originally built in the late fifteenth century as a row of shops, but became an inn in the early eighteenth century. It ceased being a pub in 1919 when the licence wasn’t renewed, but was reopened in 1982 when CAMRA themselves took it over. It then became a JD Wetherspoon venue in July 2000 and they kept it until 2016.

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    The Lynn News reported in May 2023 that a new owner had taken over, with an attempt to give the venue some stability after its recent closure.

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    We both ordered half of the Jigfoot from Moon Gazer (I like Moon Gazer) and the team member mentioned that he’d probably only have enough for one of us as it was near the end of the barrel. I quickly switched to the Pintail from the same brewery and Julian followed, an end of the barrel beer isn’t very appealing and we thought we’d let another customer take that chance. The Pintail was well kept, at the appropriate temperature and tasted as expected.

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    The interior of this pub is outstanding and there’s an upstairs bar and gallery area which looks down on the main hall.

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    There are a number of smaller rooms, although this area did lack some atmosphere. This is one of the evident challenges of this building, it’s large and something of an odd shape so it’s hard to see what’s going on throughout the various rooms.

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    The bar itself covers three different rooms and there’s no shortage of character in the pub as a whole.

    The welcome was friendly and immediate, with the surroundings feeling comfortable and it’s hard not to be taken in by the beauty of the building itself. The team members also offered a polite farewell when we left the pub, so the service was always warm and helpful. The pub has a challenge that it’s near a Wetherspoons and two Craft Union pubs which all have low prices, but the beers here were reasonably priced. It wasn’t evident to me whether food was being sold as there were no menus on tables, although an external sign notes that cakes are available.

    It’s marvellous that this pub is open again and it was the first one that I wanted to visit as part of our expedition to the town for research purposes. I’m sure it’ll evolve over the next few months, but I rather enjoyed visiting here again and it’s hard to remember now when it was operated by Wetherspoons although there are some clues around such as the tiling and other internal decoration which remains.

  • Attleborough – Bear Inn Public House (closed in 2000)

    Attleborough – Bear Inn Public House (closed in 2000)

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    Julian and I went on a little meander at the weekend to the London Tavern and the Griffin Hotel as part of our attempt to visit every pub in Norfolk and Suffolk. There aren’t many pubs left in the town centre of Attleborough, but I was merrily reading the story of the Bear pub which was located on Queens Road. The odd story of this pub’s demise was written about in the Diss Express on Friday 16 April 1999, although they were hopeful of finding a resolution at the time, when the owner Spring Inns announced they wanted to sell the building. Spring Inns had purchased the property from Pubmaster and they were one of the pub companies that was swept up by the larger pubcos, leaving a trail of destruction in their path, but I digress.

    But the relevant part here is that the new landlady, Susan Dickerson, had been the landlady of her pub for just two days before Spring Inns announced their decision. That feels highly sub-optimal. She had been promised a two year lease and had left her job working on the checkout of one of the town’s supermarkets. She had thrown herself into her new pub, operating it on a community basis with three pool teams, a darts team and a bowling team. Dickerson was hopeful of a positive outcome as she clearly loved her pub, but it shut anyway and was turned into housing. It was a sad end to a pub that had been trading since the late eighteenth century and it looks like a traditional old building that would have been a credit to the town.

    There are some other stories from the pub over the centuries, including from 1853 when a James Back and a William Barnes were drinking in the venue. They then thought it would be a marvellous idea to race two friends, John Anderson and a lad called Gooch, on their horse and cart and Back and Barnes were riding in a waggon without reins. This ended in disaster when there was a crash with Anderson dying and Gooch being seriously injured. The two drunken men were fined £1 each, but the Bear weren’t considered culpable in the whole arrangement. Numerous coroner courts and public auctions were also held at the Bear, a reminder of when pubs were very much part of their local community and their functioning. They still are to a large degree, but unfortunately there are far fewer of them.

    Anyway, I’d like to know more about this pub and if anyone does have any recollections or photos, let me know at jw@julianwhite.uk.

  • Attleborough – Griffin Hotel (Two Julians)

    Attleborough – Griffin Hotel (Two Julians)

    This post is also available at www.norfolksuffolk.org.uk where our back catalogue of posts about pubs in Norfolk and Suffolk can be found  🙂

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    We visited Attleborough at 21:00 on a Saturday night and the two town centre pub options listed on CAMRA’s Whatspub were the London Tavern and this former coaching inn, the Griffin Hotel. I have to some degree wax lyrical about the Griffin Hotel as it first opened in the 1560s when Queen Elizabeth I was on the throne. I’m enthralled what the atmosphere of coaching inns would have been like. Travel was more dangerous and challenging during those times, so travellers reaching their accommodation for the evening would have had an element of relief. They would have been keen to have a meal, several drinks and accommodation provided, all the elements of a positive jamboree of entertainment.

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    The venue notes that this passageway was once paved with wooden cobbles to muffle the sound of horses arriving and departing, to prevent disturbing the sleep of the weary travellers already in their beds.

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    This wing overlooking the church was added in the eighteenth century.

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    The venue’s dining and breakfast room. It might not look the most modern, but it’s in keeping with the building and its cosy feel.

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    The menu.

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    The special’s board.

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    There was just one real ale, the Battle of Britain from Wolf Brewery. It wasn’t quite the choice of four or five real ales that we had seen listed on Whatpub, but it was a well kept copper coloured ale.

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    The bar itself is in keeping with the general decor which is full of character and I have a sense of wonder of just how many people have walked through here over the centuries. The pub was quiet when we visited, just a couple of other customers which couldn’t have been in much more contrast to the London Tavern. Julian noted that he could hear the music from the louder pub whilst in this pub, it’s nice of them to share their entertainment like that.

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    The smaller snug room to the left of the main entrance.

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    A beer pump. There were numerous framed photos on the walls, somewhat eclectic but adding atmosphere to proceedings none the less.

    I very much liked this venue, the heritage is undeniable and it had a calm and cosy feel to it. This must be one hell of a challenge to operate at the moment given the sheer size of the building and the energy demands that it must have amongst all of their other costs. Attleborough no longer needs the level of accommodation that it once did when it was a coaching town, but there were still numerous places to stay and so that means room rates aren’t likely to go that high.

    Their on-line reviews on Google aren’t perhaps helping them much as they picked up several negatives a few years ago, which might put current potential diners and guests off. However, their accommodation element seems to have better reviews and I imagine that this is what is sustaining them at the moment. It’s essential to the community that venues such as this continue to thrive, as it would be horrifying for an Elizabethan pub to close after so many centuries. It’s reassuring that such places are still open and it was a delight to have a drink in an environment with so much history.

  • Attleborough – London Tavern (Two Julians)

    Attleborough – London Tavern (Two Julians)

    This post is also available at www.norfolksuffolk.org.uk where our back catalogue of posts about pubs in Norfolk and Suffolk can be found  🙂

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    The London Tavern has been surprising and delighting the denizens of Attleborough since the 1830s. Norfolk Pubs has some history about how the landlords were playing a bit fast and loose during the World Wars, in 1916 they were failing to close their premises to soldiers and during the Second World War there were repeated breaches of blackout rules.

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    It would be wrong of me not to mention in passing that there was something of an absence of welcome when we entered, although we were left sufficiently entertained as the member of bar staff decided that she was going to go into detail with other customers about matters that I cannot possibly write about for fear of spoiling this blog’s PG rating. I don’t mind listening to more personal information than I could possibly know what to do with, but it meant that we were just standing waiting to be served for a few minutes which was a little sub-optimal as no-one was being served. But, the venue itself seemed inviting enough and it had attracted quite a number of characters so Julian was entirely in his element. A well run pub really should have an element of theatre about it, I was sensing that Julian was near to writing one of his theatre reviews with the amount of material being provided to us.

    The vibe of the venue is perhaps evident from this review and the pub’s response:

    “Got covered in dog slime from owners dog then it did a dump beside me which left there”

    Got the rather elegant reply of:

    “We are very sorry that you witnessed an extremely disturbing and upsetting incident in our garden approximately 9.4 meters from where you sat. We thank you for bringing the incident to our staff and customers attention and the world at large, hopefully in doing so it will help others never experience such an awful totally preventable occurrence.

    However we must thank you for how you relaid the incident it was extremely useful for our new 18yr old barmaid having only been in the role for 5 days it gave her – her first opportunity to experience an irate customer and learn from it, sadly you left so abruptly she/we never got the opportunity to apologise to you in person.

    It’s also unfortunate it would seem that Steve missed you by only a few moments as he went outside via one door whilst you entered by another so he also missed the opportunity to apologise to you in person. However as he was out there so quickly he was able to apologise to those customers still in the garden for your foul mouthed outburst you directed at them and thankfully turn it into a light hearted moment.

    We are grateful for the constructive criticism and we will discuss her bad manners with her and actively look at ways we can prevent this type of incident happening again. We totally appreciate that you will never wish to visit again so will take this opportunity to offer you our sincere apologies.”

    I think that’s a fair reply  🙂

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    They had one real ale, which was the Iceni Queenie from Steam Shed Brewing of Swaffham, a well kept golden ale. At the appropriate temperature and an interesting beer that I haven’t had before, so all was well there. They did brew their own beer, Taylor’s Brewery, on site but this stopped during lockdown and hasn’t yet restarted although there are plans to do so at some stage.

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    Julian enjoying the atmosphere, which had a considerable climate of activity to keep him absorbed in people watching. I can’t possibly go into too much detail, but Julian even got the attention of Facebook with his commentary on what he saw. What more praise could a pub want?

    There wasn’t much pub activity in the centre of Attleborough on the Saturday evening that we visited, it was here and the Griffin which were open for our entertainment. I think it’s fair to say that for those want a lively and noisy atmosphere, go for this one, there’s likely always going to be something happening. The welcome could have been a bit more immediate, but we were in no hurry and the pub was kept clean and tidy. Definitely something of a community hub and the place to party, the number of customers suggests that they’re doing something right so worth popping into for anyone who happens to be passing by.